Do you need a paper copy of candidate statements in your ballot package? It is extremely important that you provide your feedback. Please indicate if you do or do not need a candidate package sent in the mail.
All complete candidate statements are to be posted online in addition to candidate carts and candidate forums.Help make the Pacifica National Elections set an example as leading the movement in media democracy while recognizing the global need to work towards creating a sustainable election mechanism.
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I have no problem at all with this method of voting.
If you have the entire candidate package available on line there is no need to mail one to me
I\’m a person with a disability that needs to use assistive technology.
I just didn\’t think about it
“The candidate statements on the web site MUST be easily printable. There must be absolute security if we are going to vote on line. We have had enough dirty tricks with elections with paper ballots.
During the current fund drive few if any pitches include \ by donating you get to vote for the LSB\”"
“As someone who has gone paperless of all bills and most mail, who is working toward making more sustainable changes in my life, yes I want to see electronic ballots. I believe that changing the world for the benefit of the planet is my business. Activism, pro-activism, human rights, civil rights, mother earth rights….I have already made the switch, my purpose and my choices are aligned. Maybe not perfect, maybe not limitless on funds, but where ever I can, I stand up for our planet. Keep up the great work you are doing.
!Gracias! Blesssings!
I strongly support this as a way to save resources and expenses associated with printing and mailing hard-copy ballots. That said, I wonder if there may need to be provisions for members without Internet access.
For the same reasons that electroic voting can\’t be trusted elsewhere, at Pacifica it is even more dangerous, given the limited recourse in the courts to challenge fraud and the past performance (e.g., 2008 and 2009 elections) of those conducting the election.
I am concerned about the legitimacy of vote counting for it is of course very easy to create a program that would attribute to one candidate the actual votes of another, so before agreeing to \Green Voting
“I need strict assurance that U.S.Postal service mailed ballots will be a default method of voting. An \Opt-In\”" option of voting on the \’net”
“I\’m a little concerned that survey is online; may provide skewed results that do not include responses from persons without internet access or those with sporadic access to the internet.
“we\’ve used electronic ballots before.
i will become a current member subject to KPFA depositing payment promptly. sometimes they do, sometimes they do not.”
“Election officials threw many completed ballots in the garbage last election.
Hundreds of listener ballots were discarded.”
I would consider it, but I am concerned that abuses can more easily be carried out with an electronic voting system. Last year\’s (2009\’s) elections showed us quite clearly that there is a real unscrupulousness among people with regard to the elections. There were many extremely questionable acts by people during the elections. If people, such as myself, remain banned from participation in the stations–and, I am banned as are most of the banned at WBAI) for no reason other than that we are politically dissenting from the current management and the way it came to control Pacifica and the stations–than it must be expected that dissenters will not have the sort of access to the technology used for such a system as you are asking about here, so that they can inspect it and its use properly.
Obviously, my choice directly supports your Green initiative.
“Save trees, save time, save money
Although I did donate over $25 in the specified timeframe I wanted to indicate that I am staff and am taking the survey out of interest in its content.”
Refraining from needless ink-printing and use of paper-products is one of the best ways we can curb the problems of global-warming and bring our culture into a more sustainable and balanced relationship with our environment. I hope Pacifica moves in this direction in the future, and uses paper only to communicate with members who have absolutely no other way to participate in the election process.
“Not sure if I am a member in good standing for this time period. If I\’m not, please let me know so I can donate before the 6-30 deadline. I use the candidate\’s statement booklet to make notes while listening to the candidate forums.
Although, I strongly support your desire for a greener election, I am also a strong advocate of paper ballots as they are the only real and tangible record for elections.”
Online voting is extremely vulnerable to fraud. One of the leading figures in online security has concluded that online voting is, as currently constituted, fatally compromised in terms of security. See Avi Rubin\’s article \Security Considerations for Remote Electronic Voting over the Internet
A paper trail should be available in all elections. Never forget Bush/Gore 2000.
“I hope I can pick up the candidate package at the station.
The Electronic Ballot makes sense as long as it is secure, accurately counted, and accessible to all listeners eligible to vote.”
Have to feel more confident it\’s confidential unhackable. I\’m a wimp that way, but election material other than that, fine. If you mean send the ballot by email to be printed at home, yes, I\’d consider that.
There are too many rancorous disputes between factions already, and many Pacifica listeners don\’t trust electronic voting. WE ARE NOT READY FOR ELECTRONIC BALLOTS.
“I\’d be happy to hear that many trees would be saved by switching
to an electronic ballot!”
just try to found the way to participate to a change of consumation with out inpact so much our nature…hearth
i like paper and you\’re a dumb A@#@ if you belive Al Gore
I would like to reduce the paper waste. I already receive so much junk mail that is, by the way, usually coated in something glossy and makes it non-recyclable
I think electronic voting is o kay as long as realtime results are posted and an email receipt is produced.
Concern that ballots are secure and somehow check-able; assuming that is taken care of, totally behind you and appreciative!
“As much GREEN as possible is fine with me!!
Please announce this survey on the air. I didn\’t know about it till I went by chance on your website.”
Electronic candidate statements, followed by electronic balloting, strike me as a no-brainer. I\’m a former LSB member and as such I have a heightened awareness if budget pressures on our station and the national network.
It\’s ridiculous to send paper to any member who has an active e-mail account, or who can login to a voting site with their member number (plus some other info, maybe their zip code or something).
Green Elections, Yeah!
I am concerned about the cost to the network of paper ballots and the resulting printing and mailing costs. These are costs which could be reduced to a mere nothing in comparison. AND… why do you need to mail the application, it could have been emailed. There is no restriction on this.
There is already too much graft in Pacifica elections. I would not trust an electronic ballot to vote for any elected official. The amount of lying, theft, and behind the scenes skulduggery in the last ten years has nearly taken all my faith away from this foundation. With Pacificas track record, I think we need paper ballots to keep us honest.
(a) This electronic vote option is long, LONG overdue. Our dollars are scarce, and it makes no sense for technologically enabled members to use paper ballots, with their production and mailing costs, when voting can be done almost free via the internet. (b) Ballot should have candidates in same order as in candidate statement booklet, with page references, to facilitate ranking.
Why not ? save some paper yipee!!
“The paper ballot makes me feel bad, and sometimes guilts me into voting, but I should be better anyway…
I would love to see a more green means of voting, if we can just get folks like me to do it!”
“Mailing out general information about candidate choices is fine to make On-Line only.
Voting is different. Paper gives you an audit trail.
ANY E-VOTING SYSTEM is by DESIGN un-safe, insecure, open to fraud and manipulation by third parties, corporations, or government agents. All e-paper trails are generated from within the E-voting system, so they are automatically suspect and non-Democratic.
Eliminate unnecessary mass mailings (Candidate Statements) while NOT Eliminating a democratic, secure, voting system with a nearly tamper-proof audit trail.”
I would rather the money go to programming than paper.
My internet service is not reliable
Not sure how you will tamper-proof the ballot, but I\’m willing to give it a try. I do have the capability of studying candidate statements on the internet. If candidates have their own materials on their own sites, you should also publicize that, in addition to their official statements (approved format, length, etc.)
I\’m in favor of anything that lowers waste and cost. Thank you for getting this in motion.
“I would print out candidate statements to read off-screen, so I hope for an easily printable offering.
(I realize I am creating the questionable paper copy, but health concerns make it worth my investment. Eyes can\’t take a lot of screen reading, nor can neck and shoulders. Printed pages prevent squinting and schrunching.)
Regarding paper-less electronic ballots, I am in favor of this technologically based savings ONLY if voting security can be assured.
Thank you for doing advance planning.”
“I have followed the information provided by Debra Bowen
[CA Sec. of State ] and the righteous citizen from Black Box voting, Bev Harris, in regard to security and accuracy involved with electronic balloting. I will be very interested in the steps
taken to ensure that the software is NOT unavailable for inspection and testing.”
speaking for myself only, i have found the local elections very difficult to relate to. i think they are important, but, i tend not to know any of the candidates and cannot relate to the little i hear from them in interviews on kpfa or in their literature. i usually misplace the voting info package before the elections. here i am, reading about the upcoming elections. that alone is a breakthrough. i hope it works and i\’m more engaged in the election this time??? good luck. i think the survey is a good idea. i hope it works and helps get a lot more informed participation.
“This was easy to find. But I often have trouble navigating the KPFA website. Just make the voting directions, candidate profiles, etc easy like this was and it will be fine.
Saving money is very important.”
I\’d be more than happy to both vote online and look at all of the voting materials online. I\’d also VERY MUCH prefer to NOT receive direct mail donation requests. It seems a waste of the hard-earned money that I continually donate to the station. I\’m sure that the common wisdom you are following is that you need to keep up this task. I just wish I had the option of saying enough is enough, given that I DON\T want to receive them and do donate regularly.”
Why can I no longer get on the KPFA.Org website to use their archives.. or listen to programs that have occurred during the day?
I wud consider using an electronic ballot, but I enjoy keeping the paper ballot book as a reference in case I need to respond to any candidate I select.
any monetary saving to the station we can make by doing more of the election process online sounds good to us.
I strongly urge moving to electronic ballots to save money and paper.
“Electronic balloting is notoriously fraudulent. Pacifica should be pro democracy and should lead the way in opposing electronic voting.
No one will trust elections done electronically, and they shouldn\’t.”
The only negative aspect is that it took a very long time for your website to load up on my computer.And it is taking a long time for this message to print out on the screen. Can you peed it all up?
“i have access to the internet. however, i can\’t read much onscreen without pain in my eyes. also using the keyboard causes wrist pain. i could print out the info but i don\’t have the skills to do it in the format it comes in the mail, so it would use a large amount of paper & ink if i did that.
about electronic ballots, i don\’t trust computers to work correctly in a reliable way, not to mention the greater possibility of fraud without paper ballots. my experience has been that computers make strange & unexpected mistakes, sometimes without the knowledge of the user.”
Note: I mailed in my check a week or so ago, so don\’t know if I even have a membership number yet.
As a supporter of Pacifica and an environmentalist, I think this is an important step in improving the bottom line for the foundation while reducing the impact on the environment.
Good work
While I haven\’t voted on board members in the past due to lack of time to educate myself about them (serious personal problem), I know the importance of an active board overseeing the programs that drive the Pacifica \free-speech\” radio mission and vision
It seems likely that Pacifica is transitioning to an all Internet form of distribution (all content on a server that listeners/viewers would download to their smart-phone, laptop, or desktop). If this is the case it\’s only logical that voting for officers, delegates, and board members would be done via the Internet.
Since I use email regularly, getting the information & voting via the internet makes sense to me because it saves paper & saves money.
Paper ballots are traceable and countable. Electronic voting is fallible as we\’ve seen in the past several national elections.
Please announce the survey on the air.
“I have no telephone, no internet, no electricity for YEARS.
Three homes on my block CAN NOT AFORD TO HAVE ELECTRICTY.
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The only advantage is that Hackers pick the winners. Our failure to allow ANY manual recounts in the last 5 KPFK LSB elections points that way.
KPFK could have cut it\’s use of electricity from 25% too HALF with off-the-shelf changes in the last 5 years, and saved $100,000 to $300,000 in electric bills, also saving the 20 gallons of water used to deliver each killowatt.
The money Pacifica spends on achieving fair and open Governance, and on electing listeners, is the most important listener money we spend.
\Green Election\”" is a straw man.”
Provided electronic voting is secure, documentable, and certifiable, I would prefer to save KPFT/ Pacifica the fiscal and carbon expense of the candidate statement/ paper ballot process by reading candidate statements and completing future ballots online.
Yes, much more likely to complete it.
I may boycott elections. I agree with Norman Soloman that they have been a disappointing waste of Pacifica\’s/KPFA\’s (our) money.
“I would not consider using an Electronic Ballot. I am concerned about the counting of the votes. Let me know what you are thinking about the counting method and who would be counting them.
Too close a memory of the electronic voting machines and our stolen national election(s).”
Create an opt-in for paper ballots/election materials.
“There are two issues, general election information (candidate statements, etc.) and ballots.
First, I am strongly in favor of hosting general election information online. I trust that online information and radio spots will provide candidate statements and similar campaign information. The radio information is crucial; it allows all listeners to cast informed votes.
Second, Pacifica stations have provided alarming coverage of what happens across our nation when there is electronic voting without a paper trail. Please use paper ballots. That would ease my mind and increase my confidence in the election results.
In summary: Keep it paperless and online, except for ballots. Ballots should be 100% post consumer recycled paper.”
“i want to save money. This is a lot better than raising extra funds to cover paper ballots. etc
BUT – THIS WEBSITE IS NOT HELPFUL. IT IS NOT SET UP IN A WAY THAT \JUMPS\”" OUT TO THIS ISSUE. ”
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Don\’t waste resources on the Luddites.
I\’m all for electronic voting for this kind of election as long as it\’s an \opt-in\”. Also
“I do not need a paper copy of the candidates\’ statements. I will borrow a paper copy from another listener/member.
There are many issues with regard to ensuring a secure, auditable election when electronic voting and vote-by-mail are used, but at least with vote-by-mail, there is a paper record. I\’d encourage KPFA to stick with paper ballots. Visit blackboxvoting.org to learn more about the perils of using electronic voting.”
I would prefer electronic ballots — easier for me and less waste and expense.
I think we should model what we believe is best for all elections. If a secure online ballot can be found then we should use it. Otherwise, we should have paper ballots. We can save money by not sending whole packets of information to those who can easily get them online. Just mail the paper ballot itself.
These elections are unwanted by the listeners, most do not participate and the entire process is imposed on us. This entire process results in wholly unqualified people, some with serious mental illness, to enter the governance of Pacifica. This has done great harm to the foundation. The entire process is flawed and is an insiders game.
I am ready for electronic now.
Electronic ballot preferred – paper tends to get misplaced!
“Hi,
Can you please check and see if I\’m a current member. I\’m actually not sure. You can email me back at the email I have listed. -Thanks”
voting on line will save paper and money 4 pacifica stations
“On KPFA this morning they said they’d like listener input about elections, so…
I’m in favor of anything that can reduce the cost up to and including doing away with paper ballots or elections entirely, especially if there is still some way to give input (i.e. on-line comments).
I’ve listened for several years now (maybe 8-10 years) and I’ve given money multiple times but always found that the elections (much like all local elections) are not something I feel comfortable making decisions about because I don’t feel I have much info.
Yes, you put statements on-line but a few paragraphs don’t necessarily give me enought destinction about someone’s background and specific plans for the station (not anyone’s fault). So, I’ve only returned one ballot in several years of eligibility because I don’t want my uninformed vote to tip the scales… I wish the uninformed/ignorant would not get involved in politics so I don’t want that to be me!
Hope this helps.”